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		<title>By: karl</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2012 22:02:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey Frank, I don&#039;t mind at all. I appreciate this web site and your input. Thanks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Frank, I don&#8217;t mind at all. I appreciate this web site and your input. Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank M. Painter, D.C.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank M. Painter, D.C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jul 2012 19:56:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Karl,

Thanks for the suggested materials. 

I hope you don&#039;t mind, but I added links in your fists submission, so people could review the materials you mentioned.

As an FYI, you can add URLs (or bolding, etc) in your posts by clicking on the &lt;U&gt;link&lt;/U&gt; icon]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Karl,</p>
<p>Thanks for the suggested materials. </p>
<p>I hope you don&#8217;t mind, but I added links in your fists submission, so people could review the materials you mentioned.</p>
<p>As an FYI, you can add URLs (or bolding, etc) in your posts by clicking on the <u>link</u> icon</p>
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		<title>By: karl</title>
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		<dc:creator>karl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jul 2012 17:12:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Chiropractors have been and currently the leaders/experts to address the &quot;mechanobiology&quot; of a joint under undue stress. Like the article I posted says OA osteoarthritis is a joint failure rather than a disease. Joint failure is driven by abnormal joint loading. Lastly, in the Rheumatology article( I posted portions of the article above) as with any chronic disease management of OA is complex and needs individualizing. Wow sounds like chiropractic. We need to continue to educate the public but I wonder will health care insurance companies allow us to treat these individuals and reimburse us for it?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chiropractors have been and currently the leaders/experts to address the &#8220;mechanobiology&#8221; of a joint under undue stress. Like the article I posted says OA osteoarthritis is a joint failure rather than a disease. Joint failure is driven by abnormal joint loading. Lastly, in the Rheumatology article( I posted portions of the article above) as with any chronic disease management of OA is complex and needs individualizing. Wow sounds like chiropractic. We need to continue to educate the public but I wonder will health care insurance companies allow us to treat these individuals and reimburse us for it?</p>
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		<title>By: Russell Berg D.C.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Russell Berg D.C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2012 22:46:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am living proof that chiropractic manipulation makes a difference. As a gymnast in my teens, I suffered a severe neck injury and started experiencing neck and arm pain. After going to my medical doctor for several weeks I was referred to a chiropractor. Within a short time I was back feeling great, but after I started chiropractic school my symptoms started to exacerbate. I had cervical films taken which demonstrated degenerative changes and I was only 22 years of age. Since that time I have received regular care that has been able to help keep my joint changes in check. After 33 years of practice I have never missed a day of work because of illness or injury. I don’t think that is a coincidence.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am living proof that chiropractic manipulation makes a difference. As a gymnast in my teens, I suffered a severe neck injury and started experiencing neck and arm pain. After going to my medical doctor for several weeks I was referred to a chiropractor. Within a short time I was back feeling great, but after I started chiropractic school my symptoms started to exacerbate. I had cervical films taken which demonstrated degenerative changes and I was only 22 years of age. Since that time I have received regular care that has been able to help keep my joint changes in check. After 33 years of practice I have never missed a day of work because of illness or injury. I don’t think that is a coincidence.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank M. Painter, D.C.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank M. Painter, D.C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2012 17:17:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi John!!!

I believe the &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.halexandria.org/dward159.htm&quot; TARGET=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;FONT COLOR=&quot;#DB0025&quot;&gt;&lt;B&gt;Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle&lt;/B&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/A&gt; has a dramatic effect on any observation. 

&lt;FONT COLOR=&quot;#26732A&quot;&gt;&lt;B&gt;We can NEVER know how those people would have been IF they never received chiropractic care&lt;/B&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;. All we can do is *try* to compare people with similar complaints who either saw a DC, or saw an MD.  Even so, the statistics for those who DO receive chiropractic care is quite compelling.

There is also what is referred to as the &quot;&lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.biomedcentral.com/1741-7015/8/75/&quot; TARGET=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;FONT COLOR=&quot;#DB0025&quot;&gt;&lt;B&gt;non-specific effects of care&lt;/B&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/A&gt;&quot;, including that fuzzy-warm feeling you may have for your doctor, and the advice and attention they bestow. 

&lt;FONT COLOR=&quot;#26732A&quot;&gt;&lt;B&gt;Satisfaction surveys certainly rate DCs MUCH higher than their MD counterparts&lt;/B&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;. Researchers are now placing much higher value on that &quot;placebo-effect&quot; than ever before.

Finally, regarding your comment about the &quot;&lt;FONT COLOR=&quot;#0000FF&quot;&gt;&lt;B&gt;pathological changes in the joint&lt;/B&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&quot;, I recently re-worked the &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.chiro.org/LINKS/subluxation.shtml&quot; TARGET=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;FONT COLOR=&quot;#DB0025&quot;&gt;&lt;B&gt;What is The Chiropractic Subluxation?&lt;/B&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/A&gt; page, to make it much easier to review the neurologic and degenerative effects of joint fixation, and how chiropractic can help.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi John!!!</p>
<p>I believe the <a HREF="http://www.halexandria.org/dward159.htm" TARGET="_blank" rel="nofollow"><font COLOR="#DB0025"><b>Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle</b></font></a> has a dramatic effect on any observation. </p>
<p><font COLOR="#26732A"><b>We can NEVER know how those people would have been IF they never received chiropractic care</b></font>. All we can do is *try* to compare people with similar complaints who either saw a DC, or saw an MD.  Even so, the statistics for those who DO receive chiropractic care is quite compelling.</p>
<p>There is also what is referred to as the &#8220;<a HREF="http://www.biomedcentral.com/1741-7015/8/75/" TARGET="_blank" rel="nofollow"><font COLOR="#DB0025"><b>non-specific effects of care</b></font></a>&#8220;, including that fuzzy-warm feeling you may have for your doctor, and the advice and attention they bestow. </p>
<p><font COLOR="#26732A"><b>Satisfaction surveys certainly rate DCs MUCH higher than their MD counterparts</b></font>. Researchers are now placing much higher value on that &#8220;placebo-effect&#8221; than ever before.</p>
<p>Finally, regarding your comment about the &#8220;<font COLOR="#0000FF"><b>pathological changes in the joint</b></font>&#8220;, I recently re-worked the <a HREF="http://www.chiro.org/LINKS/subluxation.shtml" TARGET="_blank" rel="nofollow"><font COLOR="#DB0025"><b>What is The Chiropractic Subluxation?</b></font></a> page, to make it much easier to review the neurologic and degenerative effects of joint fixation, and how chiropractic can help.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2012 16:56:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Very nice piece Frank. The articles cited seem to show an advantage to those who receive regular adjustments. It is tough however, to tease out the benefits of manipulation alone in these studies. As Coulter points out, causality is difficult to establish. It sounds like those seeking maintenance care are a cohort that is more pro-active regarding their health. They exercise more, probably eat healthier and seem to have a better over-all outlook. Of course, chiropractic is more than manipulation. Practiced properly, it is a Doctor-patient encounter that includes a wide variety of health care advice. A few well-chosen words can do much.

Regarding the originating article I think as chiropractors we have always believed that impaired motion can lead to pathological changes in the joint but, at this point it remains a hypothesis. A stepping stone. To be convincing, more work is needed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very nice piece Frank. The articles cited seem to show an advantage to those who receive regular adjustments. It is tough however, to tease out the benefits of manipulation alone in these studies. As Coulter points out, causality is difficult to establish. It sounds like those seeking maintenance care are a cohort that is more pro-active regarding their health. They exercise more, probably eat healthier and seem to have a better over-all outlook. Of course, chiropractic is more than manipulation. Practiced properly, it is a Doctor-patient encounter that includes a wide variety of health care advice. A few well-chosen words can do much.</p>
<p>Regarding the originating article I think as chiropractors we have always believed that impaired motion can lead to pathological changes in the joint but, at this point it remains a hypothesis. A stepping stone. To be convincing, more work is needed.</p>
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		<title>By: karl</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2012 16:39:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Future Management of Osteoarthritis

What of the future? It seems to me that after years in the doldrums, we are now in a position to move forward in OA, and find new approaches to the control of the disease process and of pain and disability. But these advances will not come if we only use the biological approaches that have so successfully led to the control of inflammatory arthritis. The OA process is driven by abnormal mechanical forces on a joint, so the answer must come from biomechanics as much as biology. 

Proof-of concept studies are already available, through, for example, the improvements that can occur in both symptoms and joint pathology following osteotomy or joint distraction to unload damaged areas of the joint.[19] Pain and disability require a biopsychosocial and holistic approach to the multiple problems of older people. As with any chronic disease, management of OA is complex and needs individualizing.[20]

This is another section of this opinion article in Rheumatology 2011 journal. I find it interesting and very (modern)  chiropractic . Providing optimal biomechanics to the kinetic chain may reduce/slow down this process (even when asymptomatic). Of course this is not even close to an easy sale if you will. More often then not in our culture it has to be very very broken before attempted to be fixed. This is why I&#039;m personally frustrated when a person comes in with a condition that I can treat but will really require 8-10 visits but the insurance chiropractor wants me to perform yet another miracle of doing it in 2 visits.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Future Management of Osteoarthritis</p>
<p>What of the future? It seems to me that after years in the doldrums, we are now in a position to move forward in OA, and find new approaches to the control of the disease process and of pain and disability. But these advances will not come if we only use the biological approaches that have so successfully led to the control of inflammatory arthritis. The OA process is driven by abnormal mechanical forces on a joint, so the answer must come from biomechanics as much as biology. </p>
<p>Proof-of concept studies are already available, through, for example, the improvements that can occur in both symptoms and joint pathology following osteotomy or joint distraction to unload damaged areas of the joint.[19] Pain and disability require a biopsychosocial and holistic approach to the multiple problems of older people. As with any chronic disease, management of OA is complex and needs individualizing.[20]</p>
<p>This is another section of this opinion article in Rheumatology 2011 journal. I find it interesting and very (modern)  chiropractic . Providing optimal biomechanics to the kinetic chain may reduce/slow down this process (even when asymptomatic). Of course this is not even close to an easy sale if you will. More often then not in our culture it has to be very very broken before attempted to be fixed. This is why I&#8217;m personally frustrated when a person comes in with a condition that I can treat but will really require 8-10 visits but the insurance chiropractor wants me to perform yet another miracle of doing it in 2 visits.</p>
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		<title>By: karl</title>
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		<dc:creator>karl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2012 16:20:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[OA is not a discrete disease entity, it is joint failure, akin to cardiac or kidney failure; and, like heart or kidney failure, it can be asymptomatic. Furthermore, just as the heart can fail as a result of primary problems in the endocardium, myocardium or epicardium, joint failure can result from problems in subchondral bone, cartilage, ligaments, periarticular muscles, nerves or synovium, and OA can originate in any of these or other tissues.[11]

The joint is a mechanical structure, and the key to understanding OA is abnormal mechanical stress: joint failure is the pathophysiological response of a synovial joint to mechanical insult, and the attempt of the joint to repair the damage caused by local abnormalities in force/unit area. The abnormalities in cytokines, degradative enzymes, toxic radicals and the like, which are being studied as the cause of OA, are rather the result of this attempted repair.[9, 11] Therefore, thinking about OA is moving from biochemistry of the articular cartilage to the mechanobiology of the whole joint.

OA is joint failure rather than a disease.

Joint failure is driven by abnormal joint loading.

This is part of an article I read and bookmarked I received from &lt;B&gt;MedScape&lt;/B&gt;. The article is entitled &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/736166&quot; TARGET=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;FONT COLOR=&quot;#DB0025&quot;&gt;&lt;B&gt;Developments in Osteoarthritis: Perception is Everything&lt;/B&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/A&gt;. (&lt;B&gt;NOTE:&lt;/B&gt; Registration at Medscape is free)

It&#039;s about an article from the &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://rheumatology.oxfordjournals.org/content/50/2/245.full&quot; TARGET=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;FONT COLOR=&quot;#DB0025&quot;&gt;&lt;B&gt;Rheumatology 2011 Journal&lt;/B&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/A&gt;. Good opinion article. I feel it offers some logic foe &quot;maintenance&quot; care.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OA is not a discrete disease entity, it is joint failure, akin to cardiac or kidney failure; and, like heart or kidney failure, it can be asymptomatic. Furthermore, just as the heart can fail as a result of primary problems in the endocardium, myocardium or epicardium, joint failure can result from problems in subchondral bone, cartilage, ligaments, periarticular muscles, nerves or synovium, and OA can originate in any of these or other tissues.[11]</p>
<p>The joint is a mechanical structure, and the key to understanding OA is abnormal mechanical stress: joint failure is the pathophysiological response of a synovial joint to mechanical insult, and the attempt of the joint to repair the damage caused by local abnormalities in force/unit area. The abnormalities in cytokines, degradative enzymes, toxic radicals and the like, which are being studied as the cause of OA, are rather the result of this attempted repair.[9, 11] Therefore, thinking about OA is moving from biochemistry of the articular cartilage to the mechanobiology of the whole joint.</p>
<p>OA is joint failure rather than a disease.</p>
<p>Joint failure is driven by abnormal joint loading.</p>
<p>This is part of an article I read and bookmarked I received from <b>MedScape</b>. The article is entitled <a HREF="http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/736166" TARGET="_blank" rel="nofollow"><font COLOR="#DB0025"><b>Developments in Osteoarthritis: Perception is Everything</b></font></a>. (<b>NOTE:</b> Registration at Medscape is free)</p>
<p>It&#8217;s about an article from the <a HREF="http://rheumatology.oxfordjournals.org/content/50/2/245.full" TARGET="_blank" rel="nofollow"><font COLOR="#DB0025"><b>Rheumatology 2011 Journal</b></font></a>. Good opinion article. I feel it offers some logic foe &#8220;maintenance&#8221; care.</p>
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