Comments on: Medicine and the Overtreatment of Back Pain

By: Scott

Scott — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 02:56:21 +0000

Oh, and thanks Dr. Dan Murphy for your time and research. Thanks again Frank for making this information available to learn and share.

By: Scott

Scott — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 02:53:45 +0000

I am not an advocate of smear. I think long term all it does is confuse the public. With the internet and sites like this the public is now more educated then ever. They are NOT stupid and are starting to see the truth. All we need to do is show them data, statistics, and not have to put down or bash other systems.

By: Dr. Kevin Smith

Dr. Kevin Smith — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:32:45 +0000

Dr. Garber brings up a very good point. It’s better that we are able to get out into the public and educate them about their treatment options (a TRUE informed consent). It’s not smear if all you’re doing is presenting the truth.

By: Scott Garber

Scott Garber — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 04:21:18 +0000

I am all about informed choice and the least invasive way first. It is very sad when I receive a new patient who has gone the route of pills, surgery, and more pills. Information like this is great to be able to educate people before they make a choice. Thanks Frank.

By: Dr. Kevin Smith

Dr. Kevin Smith — Fri, 13 Nov 2009 14:08:47 +0000

Dr. Frank,

Thank you. And I would be more than happy to include the footnote!

Have a terrific weekend!

Kevin

By: Chiropractic Books

Chiropractic Books — Tue, 10 Nov 2009 21:20:31 +0000

Some of those percentage increases are frightening numbers. Thanks for getting the word out!

Dr Doug
Chiropractic Books

By: Marco J. La Starza, D.C.

Marco J. La Starza, D.C. — Sun, 08 Nov 2009 02:45:51 +0000

It seems like everyone who has LBP has tried injections and heavy meds by the time they get to me?

By: Frank

Frank — Sat, 07 Nov 2009 19:17:01 +0000

Hi Kevin

We’re happy for doctors to utilize our materials for patient education. We would appreciate you footnoting us as your source. Have a great weekend!

By: Dr. Kevin Smith

Dr. Kevin Smith — Sat, 07 Nov 2009 16:55:12 +0000

Great article. If permissible, I’d like to use the information for a hand out for my patients.

By: karl

karl — Fri, 06 Nov 2009 04:18:37 +0000

hey frank…….no i didn’t think the article was a smear at all. i probably wasn’t clear. i just would like to see more chiropractors use info like this without becoming over the top/evil like….. smearing other practitioners. reason is, first i believe it’s the wrong approach; secondly and maybe even more importantly the blowback if you will can be bad news. keep up the good work it’s very much appreciated. i hope i’m being alittle clearer.

By: Frank

Frank — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 21:40:43 +0000

Hi Karl Do you consider this posting a smear? I hope not. The Cost-Effectiveness of Chiropractic page contains many of these studies. The people who need to see these studies are Insurance Companies. If they realize how much they can save, they will do their part to preferentially direct patients towards us. Here's how that could work: Several years ago I called to verify insurance coverage for a new patient. The adjuster rattled on that the coverage was 300 deductable and 75% copay for medical services. I said, that's nice, but I'm a chiropractor. She said "OH! Well for chiropractic the deductable is only 200, and we pay 85%!" I believe this is just the tip of the iceberg. The beginning of a tusanami of change.

By: karl

karl — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 21:05:52 +0000

this article again reveals how difficult/challenging the neuromusculoskeletal system is to treat/rehab. there’s no one answer/ “silver bullet”. but having said that, conservative care should be the first choice option in most cases of NMS conditions. this is why i feel it’s important to be heard. the chiropractic profession should become a more collective force/presence. part of our strategy should be presenting the facts and not smear other practitioners. COST is and always will be a primary issue. that’s our strong point. that’s why the physical therapists are in my opinion are becoming dominate players in the physical medicine arena. they are replicating our model. we need to “fight” as professionals. smearing the other practitioners is a trap. they will use it against you. be heard but be heard with facts.

By: Richard Rogovin, DC

Richard Rogovin, DC — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 15:43:27 +0000

The general public does not know these things. All we can do is educate educate and educate. I would like to add some of these facts to my website.

By: Frank

Frank — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 06:09:02 +0000

We do, Scott…and it’s right here!

But it only works if you share what you see here.

By: Scott

Scott — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 04:59:27 +0000

We need to get this out to the masses, you can’t argue when you see numbers like that. Too bad chiropractors don’t have a better PR machine.