Comments on: Painkiller Deaths Double In Ontario

By: Marco J. La Starza, D.C.

Marco J. La Starza, D.C. — Fri, 25 Dec 2009 19:11:55 +0000

Thanks Frank

By: chiropracticpittsfield

chiropracticpittsfield — Mon, 21 Dec 2009 23:09:37 +0000

Somewhere along the line you would think that they look at the bottom line? The bottom line is saving utilizing chiropractic care. There has to be other forces working that we are not aware of to stop the progression of Chiropractic care. It boggles my mind.

By: Dr. Scott Garber

Dr. Scott Garber — Thu, 17 Dec 2009 21:44:21 +0000

Frank, I think you misread my response. I was responding to the post above that said that the Ontario Government stopped paying for Chiropractic care. I responded that the decision to stop Chiropractic care in Ontario did not make the people of Ontario any healthier,get them off of pain pills, and other useless meds. That was my point, that by trying to stop Chiropractors who are drug free providers and health educators, that the Government did not serve the public well. RESPONSE: Thanks for the clarification Dr. Garber! It always surprises me what the bean counters choose to target. When recent large studies demonstrate decreases of 60.2% in-hospital admissions, 59.0% less hospital days, 62.0% less outpatient surgeries and procedures when chiropratic care is provided as an option in managed care, it boggles the mind that Ontario chooses to discontinue coverage. I guess they just didn't read or believe the 2 Manga Reports.

By: Dr. Kevin Smith

Dr. Kevin Smith — Sun, 13 Dec 2009 22:01:42 +0000

I wonder if the rabid anti-chiro people up in Canada (the usual suspects who love to testify at all the trials) would care to chime in about this? Or that Kissinger guy…the anesthesiologist from Oklahoma. Got anything to say about this?

By: Chiropractic Works

Chiropractic Works — Thu, 10 Dec 2009 21:08:58 +0000

RI Chiropractor,

That is a great question, but the bigger question would be “did they make anyone healthier and get them off of more pills” I would say the answer to that would probably be a stong NO. Then I often wonder, chiropractic in Ontario did not go away, so are people paying Out Of Pocket, and taking more responsibility now for their health?

By: RI Chiropractor

RI Chiropractor — Thu, 10 Dec 2009 15:33:15 +0000

A few years ago, the ontario government decided that they would no longer pay for chiropractic services.

Did the Ontario government really save any money?

By: Frank

Frank — Tue, 08 Dec 2009 23:04:19 +0000

This dovetails nicely with a January 2009 article in the Journal of the American Board of Family Medicine, which documented a “massive increase in costs for medical management of chronic back pain, while no significant increases in patient outcomes or disability rates had been observed”, and also noted massive increases in post-intervention complications (including death). The statistics were terrible to behold: • a 423% increase in expenditures for opioids for pain in just an 8 year period. Read more here: Medicine and the Overtreatment of Back Pain